The Life of Will/ie/iam Womack, from age 8

Will - William Womack

Father - John Womack

Mother - Matilda Brown (Mc tilda)

Records for marriage to John Womack not found. John Womack later married Nellie Montague Womack and they settled in Marshall, Harrison, Texas by 1880, shown to be married by 1871 and Will Womack was born in or about 1893, give or take.

According to familysearch.org Will(iam) Womack was married by 1916 to Ella Robertson in Marshall, McLennan, Texas on December 31st. By 1917 he was drafted. The WWI Draft Registration shows that he was "married with children". I assuming that the child was Ella's son Curly James Fields as shown in the 1920 Census. Record does not show child born between the two of them.

1900 Census

Josephine Walker, head

age 16, 1884

Annie Walker, daughter, age 2

Anna Darden, niece, age 6

Willie Womack,nephew, age 8

Nathan Womack, nephew, age 4

Franklin Street

Just a note - Josephine/Josie Walker was married to Walter Womack, the son of Henry Womack. Henry Womack was born to John Womack and Nellie Montague Womack.

1920 Census

Will Womack, head

age 27, 1893

Father - Texas

Mother - Texas

Ella Robertson Womack, wife, age 28

Curly J. Fields, stepson, age 8

John Benson, roomer, age 24

East Border Street

Just a note - I am assuming that Will Womack and Ella Robertson Womack moved to Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri because Curly James Fields, Ella's son was stationed there.

1930 Census

Will Womack, head

age 36, 1894

Ella Robertson Womack, wife, age 36

Jarboe/w Street

1940 Census

Will Womack, head

age 44, 1896

Ella Robertson Womack, wife, age 45

Madison Avenue

I am unclear on why Will(iam) Womack moved to Houston, Harris, Texas. His death certificate shows that he was living there at the time of his death and that he was divorced.



Vacation - Day-cation is officially over...Jus' the lil' joys of life

I honestly have to start out by saying God is Good!!! ALL THE TIME!...

I can just go on about HIs Goodness.

 

My little mini vacation is over and fortunately I worked my entire vacation. Yes, I said fortunately, it's what I call 'worka'MA-holic'. It's gets tough sometimes, but no one ever told me that life would be a bowl of cherries. Anywhoo, I have been busy working on me a (online) Esty Shop to sell my creations. Scrapbooking is just one of my many hobbies. God has truly Blessed with me a talent - 'R so I think anyways. I will be selling vintage altered frames 'and things'. All handmade with love. Below are just some examples of what will be in my Esty Shop.

 

Signed, Overworked and PROUD (smiling)

 

Blessings to you ALL!

 

Vintage Journey

Solid wood backing, made to hang on the wall, traveling theme, place for up to four (4) small photos, journaling tags if not used for photos, extra journaling tags, US sales only, price plus shipping and handling, $30.00 + S & H.

Vintage Music

Solid wood backing, made to sit in the picture stand, music theme, place for up to one (1) small photo, journaling space, US sales only, price plus shipping and handling, $35.00 + S & H.




 

Harrison County Genealogy

Harrison County Genealogy

AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHURCHES | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)

AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHURCHES | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)

Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#6

 

Okay!

 

I received a letter from the Department of Veteran Affairs Dallas -Fort Worth National Cemetery and the only information available was the location of his gravesite. I thought it was pretty cool that they sent the link to view the location of his gravesite. I attached the links of all military branches to my page tabs. Anywhoo, It is a step closer. I love it!

 

I definitely have to make plans to visit.  I would love to have pictures for my family tree scrapbook.

 

 

Response Letter

 

 

 

 

Once I open the link I learned that you can send request to the Branch in which the person you are researching served. I wrote a request to the Army in hopes of getting more information about "Permer". As I mentioned I just have to continue researching his un-given name for now. 

 

Letter to the Army

 

National Personnel Records Center
1 Archives Drive
St. Louis, Missouri 63138

My name is Jacqueline. I am currently doing my family tree. Unfortunately, I was adopted and I am not aware of any existing family members. I do know that Permer Bernard Payne raised me for a short, short spell until he left the home. According to ancestry.com, he is my biological (B. Lewis) Mother’s brother and she for as I know is deceased as of 2013. I am looking for any records or pictures that can be released to the general public. I attempted contacting his wife Dorothy Robinson Payne and she too is deceased. If you could please assist me with my search it would greatly appreciated. 

 

Attached is information that I gathered from ancestry.com and that I received from the Dallas – Fort Worth National Cemetery.

 

Again, thank you.

 

Jacqueline



Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#5

 

As I mentioned before, I am waiting on an answer from the Marshall Library regarding when Bernard Wilson changed his name to Permer Bernard Payne (the name he lived and passed away using). I am kind of at a died end until I hear back from either resource (National Dallas Cemetery and Marshall Public Library). It is unfortunate that the U.S. Census listed on ancestry.com does not goes pass 1940. For now I just have to continue researching his un-given name.

 

I did find his military entry and exit on ancestry.com. He entered in as "Bernard Payne". I am curious as to where the name "Permer" came in.

 

Army

 

 

Interesting, he was known to me as my biological Mother's (Brenda/el Lewis) brother. He practically raised me when he was married to Irma Simpson. The two of them never legally adopted me but I have been with Irma since birth. He was in and out of the home until he married Dorothy Robinson Payne. I remember bits and pieces of him taking me to Marshall, Texas and Longview, Texas from time to time in the summer months for very short visits. There was a relative in Marshall, Texas that I remember calling "Aunt Virgie". I can remember being confused about rather to call him "Uncle Blue" as the rest of the children or "Daddy". Kids will be kids, they all teased me in good faith. Those were certainly the good ole'days!

 

 



Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#4

...a picture not clear but certainly appreciated. yes!

 

 

August 2003 when he became ill. Permer Bernard Payne, married Irma Simpson. I was cared for by the both of them for a period of time. When the two of them divorced he married Dorothy Robinson Payne. I remained in the home with Irma.



Exploring the holdings of Marshall, Texas - Public Library - Unidentified persons and places...

Holdings of Marshall, Texas

 

 

Noted in the "Portal to Texas History".

In search of John Womack - Clue#7 - his wife Nellie

Nellie Montague Womack – Timeline

I am searching for John Womack, in order to do that I had to break down his in-home family members to understand him more. Census shows that John Womack, my Great, Great Grandfather married Nellie Montague in 1871. You have to be careful not to miss the reference. It is very easy to overlook a name, especially if you have been searching for a long time. Researching Nellie Montague Womack tells me that John Womack was married in 1871. I found a 1860 slave schedule with him on it at the age of 5 years of age, Texas (Slave owner, John F. Womack) which means he should have been b. about 1854. John Womack died in 1924. I am still waiting to hear from the Marshall, Texas Public Library. I figure the delay is because of the holidays.

1871, marriage - 1860, slave schedule = 17 years of age.

 

Nellie Montague Womack, Father – Frank Montague/Mother – Hannah ?
,information gathered according to Nellie's death certificate

1880 Census – 1856 (24) (John 1845 at the age of 35)

The census shows that she was b. in Texas and that she was a Housekeeper.

Father – Mississippi

Mother – Mississippi

Married to John Womack, recorded 1871 at 15 years of age

Hannah – 1872 Father – Georgia Mother – Texas, had her at 16 years of age

Levi – 1875 Father – Georgia Mother – Texas, had him at 19 years of age

Henry – 1878 Father- Georgia Mother – Texas, had him at 22 years of age

James – 1879 Father – Georgia Mother – Texas, had him at 23 years of age

 

Note - "all persons will be included in the Enumeration who were living on the 1st day of June 1880 (Census completed June 14th, 1880). Children born since June 1st, 1880 will be omitted. Family members who have died since June 1st, 1880 will be included."



 

1900 Census – 1845 (55) (John 1835 at the age of 65)

Father – Georgia

Mother – Georgia

Married to John Womack

Hanah – 1876 Father – Mississippi Mother – Mississippi, had her at 31 years of age

Eliza/Elize – 1883 Father – Mississippi Mother – Mississippi, had her at 38 years of age

Ras – 1884 Father – Mississippi Mother – Mississippi, had her at 37 years of age

Maggie – 1887 Father – Mississippi Mother – Mississippi, had her at 42 years of age

Octavia/Octavey – 1891 Father – Mississippi Mother – Mississippi, had her at 56 years of age

 

1920 Census – 1851 (69) (John Womack 1850 at the age of 70)

Father – North Carolina

Mother – Mississippi

Married to John Womack/widowed by now (John Womack died in 1924)

The only child that was left in the home is Octavia. Though the 1910 Census is missing, the age difference is by 1 year, she should be around 29 years of age. By now Octavia Womack Roland is married to John H. Roland (b 1880 Father – Texas Mother – Texas) and two children are shown to live in the house that is listed as Nellie’s (Montague Womack) grandsons. Wilbert Womack b 1901 and Nathan Roland b 1912. Nellie’s death certificate shows that she was born in 1854 and died in 1939, which made her 85 years of age. I did not see any slave schedules for Nellie.

Nellie died in 1939.

 

 

Quick reference at the bottom of this blog.

 

Interesting!

In serach of John Womack - Clue#6

I have been searching high and low for my Great, Great Grandfather, John Womack of Marshall, Texas. I had to stop and think...and my thought were to read up on Marshall, Texas some more. I read that "Marshall's history begin when the area that is now Marshall received it's first settlers in 1839", which would have made my Great, Great Grandfather, John Womack 45 years of age if he was born in "1835". Uhhm!!, I thought. Then I remember someone else telling me about the variations of spelling. I was surfing the internet and came across this:

"Methodology - <click this link for more information

I made heavy use of my subscriptions to Ancestry.com and Genealogy.com. Mostly, I used the census indexes as Ancestry.com, and looked at the images at Genealogy.com. Occasionally, an image was unreadable on one site or the other, so I compared the images on both sites.
Ancestry.com has both Soundex searches and wildcard searches. A wildcard is an asterisk used to represent zero to many possible letters. In general, I searched each state as follows:

1. Wom* wildcard search (in other words, every name that begins with letters "Wom")
2. Wam* wildcard search
3. Worm* wildcard search
4. Warm* wildcard search
5. Womack soundex seach
6. Wormack soundex search

This found most of the Womacks, but not all. I also looked at Womacks found by other researchers at WGN, particularly the list of indexes by Roger Womack and Sam Womack. The Ancestry.com indexes are based upon the Advanced Indexing Systems (AIS) Census Index books, which I know from experience are full of mistakes. The indexes at Ancestry.com are missing the entire county of Rankin, Mississippi, for example.


The Womack surname and its variations can easily be confused with other surname, including Warnock, Warnick, Winnick, Warman, Warmoth, Wilmoth, Warrick, Warwick. I some instances, I decided that persons indexed with these surnames were actually Womacks. In a few other instances, I saw that persons indexed as Womacks were actually some other surname - see They Were Not Really Womacks, Part II - Indexing Mistakes. When in doubt, I usually included the persons with a note as to the other interpretation of the name. See my Notes for names I skipped by state and county.


For those interested in the technical side, I entered this data into a Microsoft Excel 97 spreadsheet. I then wrote a simple C++ program (I am a computer programmer) to pull the data from the spreadsheet, sort it and do some simple processing, and write it to a XML format which I created. I then used an XSL stylesheet to transform the XML into an HTML file. I try to use pretty sparse HTML, preferring to put most of the presentation into a cascading style sheet (CSS). "


I mentioned before that research does not come over night...here's why


1880 - Census for John Womack

• age 35
• date of birth - abt 1845
• birthplace - Georgia
• home - Precint 3, Harrison, Texas
• black
• married - Nellie Womack (Montague)
• father's birthplace - Georgia
• mother's birthplace - Georgia
• in the home during the Census -

Hanah Womack (Hubbard)
Levi Womack
Henry Womack
James Womack

1900 - Census for John Womack

• age 65
• date of birth - March 1835
• birthplace - Mississippi
• home - Marshall, Ward 2, Harrison, Texas
• black
• married - Nellie Womack (Montague)
• father's birthplace - Mississippi
• mother's birthplace - Mississippi
• in the home during the Census- 

Hanah Womack (Hubbard)
Eliza Womack (Walton)
Ras Womack
Maggie Womack ( Payne)
Octavia Womack (Roland)


I was unable to find the 1910 Census, I will keep searching by tweaking the search information as much as possible. I did find a 1914 City Directory, Marshall, Texas listed as John (Nellie) Womack - Frog Town and he was a driller. This tells me that he was living in Marshall, Texas and that he was still married to Nellie Womack (Montague).


1920 - Census for John Womack

• age 70
• date of birth - abt 1850
• birthplace - Mississippi
• home - Marshall, Harrison, Texas
• black
• married - Nellie Womack (Montague)
• father's birthplace - Mississippi
• mother's birthplace - North Carolina
• in the home during the Census -

Octavia Womack (Roland)
John H. Roland
Wilbert Womack
Nathan Roland


I am still waiting on the Marshall Public Library to reply.

 

 

Quick link at the bottom of this Blog 

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Research?

"research does not happen over night"

In search of John Womack - Clue#4

I am still waiting on the library to reply about John Womack, my Great, Great Grandfather. I search as far as I could on ancestry.com and other available sites and here is what I found:

 

The only thing I found before the 1900 Census was the he had other children. According to my Auntie Blondie "she can remember calling him Uncle John" which confused us both.

 

 

Hannah (Hubbard) - 1872

Levi - 1875

James - 1879

Eliza - 1883

Henry - 1886

Ras - 1888

Octavia (Roland) - 1898

Maggie (Payne) - 1896, my Great Grandmother

 

I learned that he had to have been in Texas by 1872, because Census show that is first child (?) Hannah/Hanah was born in Texas. I notice on all of the Census I reviewed shows that he was born in Georgia and then Mississippi. My question to the Marshall, Texas Public Library (300 South Alamo Blvd. Marshall, Texas 75670) is where he was possibly from. If I don't get a reply from the Marshall Public Library or if it is not the answer I was looking for I will then write the Washington D.C. National Archives though they have some of the same information. I have written them before and they have done a search and come up with a little more for just a small copy fee.

 

b 1835

married - Nellie Montague

lived in - Marshall, Harrison County

d 1924 at the age of 85

 

 

 

 

 Quick link at the bottom of this Blog

 



Hebrew, Proverbs 22:28

Do not remove the ancient landmark that your ancestors set up.

 Bible: Hebrew, Proverbs 22:28

Large Slaveholders of 1860 and African American Surnames Matches from 1870

LARGE SLAVEHOLDERS OF 1860

and

AFRICAN AMERICAN SURNAME MATCHES FROM 1870

RootsWeb.com

Genealogist - African American

Genealogist - African American

The years married...

John Womack, my great, great grandfather

 

The years married will give you a better clue of their ages. You will notice that all of the census don't have the same things. During my search, there was another negro 'John Womack' from Harrison County; though their ages were a few years apart, periodically I would have to make sure it was the right census.

Knowing what the social security number means...by State

PDF - What a SSN means...

Knowing what the social security number means can help you with your family tree search. Clink the link above to download the PDF file. It is a list of the first three digits of the social security number and its state. Great information!!!

North Texas Baptist College Recalled

North Texas Baptist College Recalled

United States World War I Draft Cards

Surprisingly, I found a great amount of draft cards for my family members and believe it or not they give a lot of information, including their spouse's name. The one thing that I love is that it was signed by the family member. Below is a link that will give you detail information about 'registration cards'.

 

United States World War I Draft Cards

 

 

My Great Grandfather, David Payne