Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#12

I wrote to the Marshall High School and I got the response some time ago, but I have not posted an updated because I was waiting on the second response. Staff ask for dates and years which I have sent. Hopefully I will hear from them soon. Perhaps the transcript will give me more clues. There are still quite a few things I want to learn about him. From what I remember he was sort of laid back, short in height (extremely) and slew footed. He used to have this thing with pulling up his pants with  his forearms and he combed his afro to the front.



UPDATE - Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne

 

Time is definitely of the essence..

 

 

We all know that research takes time. I don't have an update on Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne. However I did go back to see any little detail that may be missed. I mentioned early on that it is not good to research too many family members at one time because you can miss something, it can be can become overwhelming and you can forget what request are sent and to where.

 

The Beginning - Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - 1st Link

 

Update - I visited the Dallas National Cemetery but unfortunately it was not during visiting hours. I will be returning on my next available day. You talk about beautiful, OMG! Visiting a cemetery is not on the top of my list but the grounds there are really well kept. I can't wait to go back to see the area in which my relative is buried in. I re-wrote the military. As I mentioned had done my family tree before, so I decided to go back and see in what name I requested look up for and it was only Permer Bernard Payne, the only name I knew at the time. When I began research before the 1940 Census were not available. When I re-wrote the military (Army) I requested research for the following names:

 

• Bernard Wilson

 

• Permer Bernard Payne, it is unfortunate that supposedly he entered the military as "Bernard Lewis" but was buried in the name "Permer Bernard Payne". I am guessing that records are not resumed and check. How they knew he was military under that name, I have not a clue.

 

• Bernard Lewis

I will be re-writing the Washington D.C. National Archive and Records Administration for a progress update.
 

 

Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#2

 

I will be forwarding a second letter to the Washington D.C. Archive and Records Administration for a progress update. I will just add to the letter "second request" and "progress update". I assumed in the beginning that the holidays caused some delays but it's been a few days. The other factors that I consider is the amount of request they get a day, what the have to do to research and whether or not the request has to be approved for any reason. Besides, his name is very confusing...perhaps they are researching all of the above names for comparison and assurance.

 

I had a wild idea because you never know...going back to see what updates to do.

 

I am going to write the Longview, Texas Public Library since he lived there a short spell. They may have some sort of information on him. Though, he served our Country (well appreciated trust me!) he seemed to have had a sporadic course in his beginning years. Then I thought, Dallas, Texas burial...uhm! I should write The Dallas Morning News - Obituary Archives and Records. Though, I have an obituary, I am in search of another picture.

Letters of request:

 

Longview Public Library 222 W. Cotton St. Longview, TX 75601

My name is Jacqueline of Texas. I am currently doing family tree research. I am writing your site to see if you all have any information on a relative of mine.

He could have lived there under a few names:

Bernard Wilson

Bernard Lewis

Permer Bernard Payne

If you could please assist me with my research it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Jacqueline

______________________________________________________________

 

THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS
508 Young St.
Dallas, TX 75202

Dear Obituary Archive Department,

 

 

My name is Jacqueline of Texas. I am currently doing family tree research. I am writing your site to see if you all have any archived obituary information on a relative of mine.

He could have been listed under a few names:

Bernard Wilson

Bernard Lewis

Permer Bernard Payne – though the Dallas National Cemetery buried him under this name.

Thank you in advance,

 

Jacqueline

 

Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#5


I have not received anything from the Army as of his date. I am going to wait a little bit before writing them a third notice. Though, I did write the Marshall, Texas Public Library another letter. Just from doing research on my own, I clearly understand that research does not happen overnight.

Okay, I had another wild idea. Since the 1940 Census in the last Census released, I wrote ancestry.com (360 West 4800 North, Provo, Utah 84604) to see if they can assist me with researching his birthplace and his parents. I did receive a response letter from the Dallas National Cemetery.




Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#7


Letter to Marshall School District (Archive Records Department)
Waiting on a reply...

Marshall High School

502 West Pinecrest Drive

Marshall, Texas 75670

 

Dear Records Department,

 

My name is Jacqueline of Fort Worth, Texas. I am currently researching my family history. I am requesting information about Bernard Wilson. I do know that lived in Marshall, Texas on the 1940 Census with my Great Grandmother Maggie Womack Payne on Star Street at the age of 7 years. I am not exactly sure how he is related. It is my understanding that he was my biological Mother’s brother.

b. March 1933
He was born Bernard Wilson, but later changed his name to Permer Bernard Payne. Again, I am trying to see if he had any school records there in Marshall, Texas for any year. According to the 1940 Census, he was not in school at age 7 years.

 

Thank you sincerely

 Jacqueline

 
 

Bernard Wilson - Permer Bernard Payne - Clue#8
Waiting on a reply...

  

Spinks Airport, Human Resource Department

13451 Wing Way, Suite 109

Fort Worth, Texas 76028

 Dear Human Resource Department,

My name is Jacqueline of Texas. I am currently doing family tree research and am in need of any information on my family members as I can get. I am researching "Permer Bernard Payne"(deceased name)/Bernard Lewis (military name)/Bernard Wilson(birth name). I am not sure what name he would have used while employed with your company. He was b. March 1933, as far as I know. He married Dorothy Robinson Payne in 1991. I attempted contacting her and unfortunately she has passed on. I was adopted as a child, so I am unaware of any other family members. I slightly remember him, because when he was married to Irma Simpson they both cared for me until he left the home. He passed on August 2003. If you could please assist me some information on him it would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 Thank you sincerely,

 Jacqueline

  








 



The Beginning - Ellen Evans Payne/Pain

So, I came across the Slave Narrative...I have been trying to cipher through what was given by her. That is the beauty of it all. I will be breaking down everything that may be of meaning as far as research goes to figure things out. All I know as of now is that she is my maternal Great Grandmother.

“Ellen Payne, 88,” – The narrative was release in 2011, I have not found a death certificate or index for her. Later in the narrative she mentioned that her husband and children were no longer living. Who the informant would have been I am not sure and if they knew anything about her. Informants as we all know give just what they know of the person.

David Payne/Pain's Mother, my Grandfather

Searches are:

Ell*, Ellen Evans, Ellen Pain, Ellen Payne, Ellen Lewis (she mention was her Father’s name, not sure if a slave name and if it changed), Ell* spouse Nelson, Ell* spouse Nelson Pain/Payne, Ell* spouse N Pain/Payne, Ellen spouse Nelson Pain/Payne, Ellen spouse N Pain/Payne, Ellen black child David Pain/Payne, E Pain/Payne, E Evans Pain/Payne slave black spouse Nelson Pain/Payne and all search in Marshall, Texas where she state she was born

“was born a slave of Dr. Evans, pioneer physician of Marshall, Texas, and father-in-law of former Governor Clark.” – I searched slave records using the above searches and was unsuccessful. I also searched for “Dr. Evan’s plantation” and the only thing that came up was a book called “Grass Roots Reconstruction in Texas 1865 – 1880”, by Randolph B. Campbell. I also searched “a list of Marshall, Texas plantations” and was not successful. I suppose that would be a good question to the ask the National Archive center or the Marshall, Texas Public Library.

“She married Nelson Payne when she was twenty-five,” – The 1880 Census shows that she was 28 years of age (1852) and married to Nelson Pain/Payne.

“and they farmed in Marshall for fifty-two years. Since Nelson's death eleven years ago, Ellen has operated the farm herself and has always made a crop. She lives alone on the Port Caddo Road.” – I cannot find a death certificate for either of them.

"My name is Ellen Payne now, but in slave times it was Ellen Evans, and I was born on the old Mauldin place right here at Marshall and belonged to old Dr. Evans. Dr. Evans loans the Bible what had all our ages in it and never got it back, so when he freed us they guessed our ages.” – I tried researching the beginning of the slave narrative project to get kind of get an idea of what age she was. The narrative was released in 2011, she was 88 when they interviewed her. I could take the year minus the 88 years of age, only if I had any idea. This would probably give more clues of her birth. Speaking of birth I emailed the Washington D.C. National Archives Center  requesting assistance for finding her birthdate.

 

“My mistress say I was 'bout sixteen years old when surrender come,” – So, I used the 1880 Census and subtracted 16 years of age and got 1848. I used the above searches and 1848 and was still unsuccessful in finding her birthdate.
“and my daddy and mammy was Isom and Becky Lewis. Mammy come from Tennessee and they was seventeen of us chillen.”  - I did find a “voter’s registration” for "Isom" in Marshall, Texas. Unfortunately, it does not specify the race. Using name variations and dates of birth, I was not successful in finding a census. On a more extended Slave narrative I find that she listed some of her siblings: Caroline, Henry, Calvert, Frances, Alfred, Allen, Lucy, Easter, Mattie, Katie, Adeline and Josephine. I tried searching for sibling and the mother (Becky/Rebecca) to locate and a census and was unsuccessful in doing so. 17 siblings, this makes for a huge family. God knows I would have love to have met each and everyone of them. Because of His Graces and Will, I am able to at research and find as much as possible for my children.

Reminder of the narrative:

"Master Evans lived in a big brick house on the north side of Marshall and run his farm four miles from town, and I stayed on the farm, but come in town some with my mammy to work for Mistress Nancy. The niggers on other farms had to sleep on 'Damn-it-to Hell' beds, but we didn't have that kind. We had good wood beds and hay mattresses with lowell covers. I mostly minded the calves and chickens and turkeys. Master Evans had a overseer but he didn't 'low him to cut and slash his niggers and we didn't have no hard taskmaster. They was 'bout thirty slaves on the farm, but I is the only one livin' now. I loved all my white folks and they was sweet to us. The hands worked from sun to sun and had a task at night. Some spinned or made baskets or chair bottoms or knit socks. Some the young'uns courted and some jest rambled round most all night. On Saturday was the prayer meetin' in one house and a dance in another. On Sunday some went to church and visitin', but not far, 'cause that was in patterroller times.” They was allus plenty to eat and one nigger didn't do nothin' but raise gardens. They hunted coon and possum and rabbits with dogs and the white folks kilt deer and big game like that. My daddy allus had some money, 'cause he made baskets and chair bottoms and sold them, and Master Evans give every slave a patch to work and they could sell it and keep the money. We didn't know nothin' but what went on at the place. Us slaves didn't carry news 'cause they wasn't none to carry and if the white folks want to send news anywhere, they put a boy on a mule to take it. Master Evans had a old woman what tended to us when we was sick, and he give us quinine and calomel and castor oil and boneset tea. That tea was 'nough to kill a mule, but it done us good. Some wore esfidity bags round they necks to keep off sickness. My young mistress married Master Clark and they lived close, and my mammy and me used to spent part the time workin' for her. Master Clark got to be governor 'bout time war started and moved to Austin. I still got the Bible he give me. I 'member the white southern men folks run off to the bottoms to git 'way from war, but I never seed nothin' of the war. When we was freed my old master calls us up and say, 'You is free, and I'm mighty glad, but I'm mighty sad.' We stays on till Christmas, then mammy and me leaves and hires out. I stays workin' with her till I'm twenty-five and then I marries Nelson Payne. My young mistress sends me a blue worsted dress to marry in, and we's married at mammy's house and she give us a nice supper. He was a farmer and we kep' on livin' on the farm fifty-two years, till he died. We loved farm life. I raised four boys but none of them is livin' now. When Nelson died first one then 'nother holps me and I has made a crop every year till now. I'm too old now, but I still raises some corn and peas and garden stuff. They gives me a $15.00 month pension, but I likes to be doin' somethin'. I still shouts at meetin's. I don't have nothin' to do with it. It hits me jes' like a streak of lightning, and there ain't no holdin' it. I goes now to camp meetin's clost to Karnack and tries to 'have, but when I gits the spirit, I jest can't hold that shoutin' back. The young folks makes fun of me, but I don't mind. Style am crowded all the grace out of 'ligion, today."

 

In search of David Payne/Pain - Clue#3

 

As you all saw, I had a hard time finding my Grandfather David Payne/Pain because of the spelling. Though he seemed to be missing at some part of the search I found a lot during my search. I knew before finding his parents that he was married to my Grandmother Maggie Womack of Marshall, Texas and that they had two children together.

 

1900 Census - 18 years of age

 

 

 

1910 Census - 28 years of age

 

married to Maggie Womack

one child, Virgie Belle Payne - age 4

 

 

He was drafted February 1918, married to Maggie Womack Payne

 

 

1920 Census - 40 years of age

 

married to Maggie Womack

two children, Virgie Belle Payne - age 13/ Myrtle Payne - age 5

 

 

Though there was not a death certificate or a social security of death (even with name variations), he had to have passed on between the 1920 Census and the 1930 Census. Only Maggie Womack Payne - widowed and Myrtle Payne - daughter were listed on the 1930 Census.

 

 

 

 

 Though I don't have a picture of my Grandfather I learned from the 'registration card' that he was a medium built man, black eyes and black hair. His Mother Ellen Evans Payne/Pain was very short. Perhaps his build and height came from his Father, Nelson Payne/Pain. I can only imagine.

 

 



In search of David Payne/Pain - Clue#2

I was surfing the Internet and came across this site with the core of the "Paynes" and though I had a blast clicking and reading I did not find anything today. I will continue researching and reading this site on my spare time. If you are a "Payne", please click the link below to see what you may discover.

 

Payne

 

 

 

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In search of David Payne/Pain - Clue#1

Okay! ...I am kind of excited right about now!! More then you can ever imagine. I love finding pieces of my history. My Mother was born Brendel Lewis the daughter of Carey Lewis and Myrtle Payne, Marshall, Texas. Myrtle Womack (Payne) married David Payne. David Payne is the son of...get this, Nelson Payne and Ellen Evans Payne of Marshall, Texas.

She is mentioned in this book, Slave Narrative:

Freedom of Slavery, purchase on eBook

I learned that their first slave owner was E.B. Clark, a former Governor of Marshall, Texas.

They later were slaves of William F. Evans, and when you read the 'slave narrative' Ellen mentioned that her name was "Ellen Evans during slavery and now it is Ellen Payne".

Is she a doll?!

My Great Grandmother Mrs. Ellen Evans Payne

 

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